DALI Concept 10 Speakers

by | Sep 3, 2005 | Component Reviews | 0 comments

DALI Concept 10 Speaker

Products: Concept 10 speakers
Manufacturer: DALI – Denmark
Cost, approx: 1380 Euro
Reviewer: Geoff Husband – TNT France


DALI is a company based in Denmark with a simply huge range of
speakers. Here we have one from the top of their new “Concept” range.
All are conventional rectangular boxes with the emphasis on value for
money rather than sculptural elegance. Though conventional they are
surprising in a number of ways – read on…


Big. No really, these are big speakers. I’m not talking horn monsters
but for many people these will seem enormous. Put them in most rooms
and they will dominate – I really can’t think of a bigger box on the
market for the money.

For most speakers the box is the single most expensive element in the
total cost. Not only is it expensive in terms of materials, it will be
more difficult to build, more expensive to ship and will take up more
space in a dealers showroom. Big may be impressive but it isn’t
fashionable for those precise reasons. But as well as impressing the
neighbours, big speakers have fundamental advantages over their smaller
brethren. All things being equal a bigger speaker will have more
efficiency (go louder for a given signal) and produce lower bass. But
things arn’t equal and the big box picks up one other important
attribute – a big baffle means space for big drive units and the
Concept 10 makes full use of this with two whopping 10″ drivers in the
bass section – this leads to even better bass extension and in theory
better dynamics, those big cones just shift more air.

If only it were that simple – because big boxes also carry
disadvantages beyond those commercial ones already mentioned. The first
is that those big flat areas of ‘wood’ are just asking to sing-along
with the drivers, adding and blurring their output. The solution is to
make the box walls thicker and stiffer and brace them well. In the 70’s
there was a rash of big, resonant floor standers and they were
generally horrible, woolly boom-boxes made out of 15 mm chipboard. Here
again the DALI looks good with a thick MDF box (20mm?) and a shelf
brace separating the two bass chambers (each has a separate port – more
on this later) – the ‘tap’ test produced a nice high note unlike the
cardboard box effect of some.

The other disadvantage of big boxes is placement – producing lots of
deep bass is just asking to set all your room resonances going, these
are going to sound dreadful in that student bedroom…

So… Here we have huge, heavy (35kgs), substantial boxes, four drivers
a side, all for the price of a luxury miniature. So how’s it done?

First, despite the ‘Made in Denmark’ badge the drivers and box are all
made to DALI’s spec in China. That must make a hefty saving and in
theory without effecting performance, providing the quality control is
good enough. Beyond this the compromises (all speakers are a
compromise) are more conventional. The two bass drivers and the
mid-range driver all sport very nice looking, treated, pulp cones
(remind me of Scanspeaks) but pulling them out reveals a pressed steel
basket rather than the cast alloy one you’d expect in a smaller speaker
of this price. Steel is OK but in theory it is less stiff and will
throw a bigger ‘shadow’ behind the driver. Other cost saving measures
include push-on tags for the driver connections and the use of screws
rather than bolts to hold the drivers in. Those same drivers do look
well made however and sport decent double magnets, so lets not get too
pedantic about it. The soft dome tweeter looks pretty conventional too,
though with a nice ‘branded’ face plate. I didn’t pull the speaker to
bits to check the crossover, but the binding posts are single wire
only, this may be to save cash though many manufacturers, Naim and
Cabasse to name just two, dislike bi-wiring.

The last saving is in the finish, you have to get up close but the
‘veneer’ is plastic wrap, though this stuff is getting so good it’d
fool most people most of the time.

In conclusion, from a material point of view, the Concept 10’s look pretty good value – now to see what they sound like…

Sound quality

This is going to sound very glib, but just by looking at those
tombstones at the end of the listening room you can guess what they are
going to sound like. I know that auto-suggestion is going to play a big
part which is why I do basic measurements, but whichever way you look
at it these are always going to sound like big speakers.

And so they should – what on earth is the point of putting up with, and
paying for all the disadvantages of big speakers without reaping the
benefits? Happily the Concept 10’s deliver in spades. From the first
moment the effortless dynamics of a heavyweight hit you between the
eyes. For those of you, like me, that consider the ability to reproduce
realistic dynamic swings in music to be fundamental, the DALI’s won’t
disappoint. Those four 10″ drivers obviously handle low to upper bass
without breaking sweat, and because they are working within their
limits the definition of low bass is very good as well. With my own
Loth-x Horns (twice the volume of the DALI’s!) I use a big Rel
subwoofer to fill in below 60hz. With the 10’s the Rel could still be
tuned to help out the sub 30 hz output, but really was largely
redundant. Now I know it’s a taboo subject here, but it does mean that
if your hi-fi doubles as a home cinema outfit with the 10’s you’ll find
all the bangs and crashes you could wish for without shelling out for
an active sub.

This effortless bass performance is as important when playing Wagner as
it is Nirvana, it gives scale, and scale doesn’t come cheap.

But… The snag is that this bass performance is something that is
difficult to control in many rooms. Big floor/ceiling resonances can
make it sound boomy, and in smaller rooms you’ll get standing waves at
the frequency (and harmonics) relating to the dimensions. Get this bit
wrong and the DALI’s can sound truly dreadful – appalling,
all-dominating, boomy bass swamping everything else in the mix. I’m
always aware that there are some of you out there who will buy
components, sight-unseen, on my say-so. I’m not happy with the
situation but as they say “if you can’t stand the heat….” So here’s a
health warning. If you want to benefit from the undoubted strengths in
bass extension and dynamics that the DALIs possess, then you need a big
room – I’d put it at 15 m2 minimum with 20+ m2 being ideal. However I’m
aware that a lot of you have such rooms and so here the DALIs will fill
such rooms with sound in which smaller speakers would be hopelessly
lost. The second prerequisite is that the room should be well damped.
Once again these speakers will try to excite room resonances and a well
damped room is essential. The smaller the room the more damping will be
needed. How do you know if your room is well damped? Walk in and clap
your hands – the decay should be rapid, ditto if you shout out. A
really well damped (overdamped?) listening room like mine gives the
impression that you have walked outside when you enter it. A poorly
damped room sounds like a bathroom, great to sing in because the echoes
give your voice body, but not for speakers chucking out shed-loads of
sub 50 hz information. I’ve said before that the room/speaker interface
is one of the most critical aspects of getting good sound and the
bigger and bassier the speaker the more critical it is. There – you’ve
been warned…

So assuming your room is OK then you are still going to be careful
about placement. These speakers need at least 50 cms behind them,
better still a metre, but this will be room dependent. The DALI’s do
offer some scope for tuning as the two bass drivers each reside in
their own ported box separated by the shelf brace. The lower one ports
through the front the upper from the rear. Here you can damp bass
output somewhat by adding wadding (tradition says a sock, but foam
plugs etc.). The result is different in each case but it costs nothing
to try.

Bass depth is matched by speed – there’s no way that this much wood is
going to stop and start like a small standmount, but then the small
standmount isn’t going to pushing out much under 50 hz. But the DALIs
do a great job of making bass lines dance – a fan of Level 42 (me)
would be pleased to hear the Concept 10’s producing the depth and speed
of that bassmeister, here of course the midrange driver and even
tweeter are participating in the production of the ‘slap’ of the bass

Just one more thing on the bass output (I know I’ve spent and
inordinate amount of time on the subject, but it’s their ‘raison
d’etre’) – the speakers are recommended for amps over 50 watts. Given
their claimed efficiency of 91 dbl this is a bit of a surprise as
generally such efficiency would put them in the range of lower powered
valve amps, maybe not 300b SE’s, but certainly something like a 25 watt
EL34. I did a brief trial with a 25 watt amp I had here and I have to
thank DALI for their honesty. Here we’re coming across one of the
misconceptions regarding speakers, that efficiency is all that
matters… The efficiency is only one parameter in how easy a speaker
is to drive. The other is the impedance, and I suspect that the DALIs
with their multi-driver line up, are a pretty tough load. Using said
amp the bass quickly became poorly controlled and soon after the
soundstage collapsed and went hard. Luckily meaty transistor amps are
everywhere, but again load tolerance is more important than output.
Here I’m pretty much valve only and the SQF ‘Son of Pharoe’ fitted very
well as it is a 40 watt per channel amp, but load tolerant. That said
I’d imagine the Korato pairing I tried a couple of years ago would make
a perfect match, both in terms of quality and budget.

Having exhausted my bass vocabulary we’d better “move on up” (“get on
down” – James Brown… ehem…. sorry). Having a dedicated mid-range
driver rather than one doubling with the bass, partly makes up for the
problems of a big, relatively resonant box, that is compared to our
‘generic’ stand-mount. And the result is a pretty well integrated
midrange. True you have to take all that I’ve written above into
account, but that said, you have to remember that with the division of
finances the DALI mid-range will be up against a very much more
expensive driver in a two-way.

It’s the subtle stuff that loses out. The production of air around
instruments, the breath of a Sax reed, you know all the cliche’s, but
there’s no denying that the DALI designers placed other things as top
priorities in their brief. What those designers did do though, is to
make this weakness simply one of omission, or at least reduced
capability, rather than a fault which irritates – all credit to them.
The midrange was well integrated and helped pull the music along. All
too often such designs end up as ‘ting-and-boom’ boxes which sound very
impressive for a moment, then become wearing. The DALIs on the other
hand have a remarkably even response, perhaps sometimes a little
downtilted, but as positioning and partnering equipment is so critical
to the overall bass performance this result is going to vary from
situation to situation.

The tweeter itself is one of the better of the breed, gone (thankfully)
are the days of edgy metal domes, it doesn’t draw attention to itself
just gets on with it.

Imaging was a pleasant surprise. Given a sympathetic room they managed
a large powerful soundstage with even a little depth. In fact the good
reproduction of the bottom octave is a major part of this, the biggest
difference my Rel makes to the Loth-x horns is not bass extension but
the feel of a hall. No, the Concept 10’s are not going to pinpoint
image like a 10 ltr bookshelf, but in managing to fill a room they came
much closer to the live event than any amount of holographic imaging.
True the Concepts are not going to be the first choice of people into
chamber music and small scale jazz, but anyone who has heard an
orchestra in full flight will appreciate how close the Concepts get for
the price.


All speakers are compromises. If you think of speaker design as a
‘normal distribution’ (or ‘bell’) curve, with tiny sub miniatures on
the far left and the majority of medium stand mounts and small
floor-standers making the bulge, the Concept 10’s are way over to the
sparsely populated right. As a result the compromises chosen are of the
more extreme kind. The Chinese build helps a lot, but there’s no doubt
that if the budget was spent on a more ‘middle-of-the-road’ design the
speaker would sport better drivers and better finish. But, given the
out-on-a-limb positioning of the Concept 10 the result is a
surprisingly capable allrounder. OK it’s inevitably going to trample
smaller speakers underfoot in the areas of bass extension, dynamics and
scale, but it remains good enough in the rest of the musical spectrum
to at least qualify as Hi-Fi. Of course compared with my Polaris
horns/Rel combination (at well over 5 times the cost) the speakers lack
midrange speed and clarity, but when my Brother-in-Law visited he was
well impressed – guess where the review pair ended up…

So not a “me too” product. Not ‘all things to all men’, but a speaker
that for some people will do things few others will do at the price –
and for that reason alone it is worthy of serious consideration.

Systems used:
    • Vinyl: Michell Orbe SME IV/Dynavector XV-1, XX-2, Music Maker.
    • Phono stages: GramAmp Era Gold Lehmann Black Cube Twin.
    • Preamp: AudioNote M3.
    • Power amp: AudioNote Silver Quest, SQF ‘Son of Pharao’.
    • Cables: FFRC and Sonic Link speaker cables. DIY silver interconnects. Audionote silver interconnects.
    • Speakers: Loth-x Polaris.

© Copyright 2005 Geoff Husband – www.tnt-audio.com

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